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2 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

What product is this ? And how do you plan to use this information ? Is this used to sell credit spreads ?

It's just a grid layout on the Tastyworks (web based platform) where you can sort stocks based on high to low IV Rank (or vice versa), earnings date, IV etc... 

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8 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

Is it free ? And how do you use this info ?

It's not free unless you have a brokerage account with Tastyworks, but I don't think there is a minimum to open one.  Higher IV Rank and IV gives you greater credit on (net) selling of options is one way.

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14 minutes ago, izzo70 said:

Yeah same thing it's just part of tastyworks now.  It's on their web based platform only.  It's not available on the software.

So, it is no longer available to non-TW customers anymore.

It is no longer "Dough"?

And I cannot have access to it unless I open an account?

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6 minutes ago, cuegis said:

So, it is no longer available to non-TW customers anymore.

It is no longer "Dough"?

And I cannot have access to it unless I open an account?

As far as i know dough is shut down (although the corp is still under the dough name) you can try and log into the tastyworks platform on the web with your dough user id and password and see if that will get you in, but probably not.

Here is a link https://trade.tastyworks.com/tw/login 

If that doesn't work you will have to open an account and fund it with a couple bucks in order to gain access as they don't have paper trading/ trial accounts as of yet. 

 

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I went dough and tried to login.

Then I was guided to a place where I could use my pre TastyWorks , Dough login info, and it let me in to the page you posted.

So, I was able to gain access without signing up for TW

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4 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

How does ORCL look to ppl here ? was thinking of entering the long call a bit early on todays weekness.

Dec15 50 call?

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Earnings are 21. So 22nd 50 call. I’m in some already but it’s down today and wondering whether to get a bit more. Charts look ok to me but was looking to the experts here for some info. 

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8 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

How does ORCL look to ppl here ? was thinking of entering the long call a bit early on todays weekness.

Best back-test for P.E. is the 3/1 -- buy 3 days before and exit 1 day before.  So I will look at it closer to earnings.

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15 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

How does ORCL look to ppl here ? was thinking of entering the long call a bit early on todays weekness.

I'll be doing the same as @NikTam. Also, they haven't released the earnings date yet.

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20 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

How does ORCL look to ppl here ? was thinking of entering the long call a bit early on todays weekness.

It had a clear breakout on the charts last week. Today can be viewed as an opportunity to get in on a pullback.

My only concern is that it is down on such a large "up day" in the overall market.

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1 minute ago, NikTam said:

AVGO getting hammered this morning -- an it was up almost 2% pre-market.  I may have to bail on this one.

It was up at the open too. I was +20% at one point. Now down almost 30%. Rough. If it drops much more might have to stop loss.

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2 minutes ago, Sirion said:

It was up at the open too. I was +20% at one point. Now down almost 30%. Rough. If it drops much more might have to stop loss.

I thought we were off to the races and bought back my short (I opened with a vertical on Friday).  Could not have been a worse decision.

I wonder if the pursuit of the Qualcomm buyout is muddying the waters?  Perhaps should have taken that into consideration before opening a position.

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1 minute ago, NikTam said:

I thought we were off to the races and bought back my short (I opened with a vertical on Friday).  Could not have been a worse decision.

Ouch. Personally, I'm going to give some room. I don't want to use a sharp intraday stoploss, as our backtesting only closes at EOD. I'm going to let it run unless something drastic happens. 

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5 minutes ago, Sirion said:

 

Ouch. Personally, I'm going to give some room. I don't want to use a sharp intraday stoploss, as our backtesting only closes at EOD. I'm going to let it run unless something drastic happens. 

$48.90 was the low of the day , on the breakout day Friday. That would be a number to keep your eye on.

But, EVERYONE is looking at that number so, if it breaks it, you could get a flurry  of stop losses.

If it breaks it and instantly comes up back through it to the upside, that usually is a form of breakout, back up again, after running all of the stops.

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Now that ORCL did what I had mentioned earlier (broke Fridays low of $48.90, and ran all of the sell stops, then rose back above that price) I am buying Jan 50's for $1.19.

Price needs to remain above 48.90

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5 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

I have the dec 22. Should I roll them out to give more time. I had thought earnings were dec 21. 

Damn.....I forgot about earnings as I got caught up strictly in the chart situation.

And, I would never hold through earnings, so it wasn't neccessary for me to go to Jan monthlies.

But, there also is no harm in doing it either!

All nearby options series will hold up in terms of IV and, also less theta decay since earnings is approaching.

 

You should be owning, at the very least, the first expiration after earnings to get the benefits of theta and IV holding up.

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Out of ORCL.

The fact that it did not supposedly, run the stops at $48.90, and then come back up through that point to continue, is a failure.

So, small, tiny losses, keeps you alive, when you know you are wrong.

I'm not going to wake up tomorrow and see it down .45 cents, and be wondering what to do.

Safety first.

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On 11/30/2017 at 8:51 AM, greenspan76 said:

Yeah. I got in the Dec15 280 call for $8.70 and will hold until Dec 6th unless there is either a 50% loss or a 50% gain first.

Missed most of the day today and a good portion of Friday, but this trade turned sour and my timing was pretty poor. Closed it out for $3.30, about 62% loss after commissions.

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8 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

Do you have a stop loss on rad. I’m down 33% already with a stop loss at 40 but wondering if I should remove that for this trade. 

I didn't have a stop loss because it is an April expiration, that was .35 cents, and in the money at the time.

So, the risk was extremely low.

Yes, when just outright "buying" options, you "could" lose 100%.

But, we would either have to fall way, way more than we have, right now or....be much, much closer to April, before that would become an issue.

But, it is not good on my part to not have a clear , pre-defined, stop point.

At the moment, the chart still looks good. It had a major breakout, and now is in a pullback period.

Even if the pullback lasted another 2 weeks, we would be in mid-December, a LONG way from April.

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Closed PLAY at a slight loss (then it immediately popped and could have closed for a slight win). ~5% loss. 

Closed VEEV for a ~20% loss. Unfortunate day.

AVGO deep underwater. Has one day left in it, going to let it ride.

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4 minutes ago, Sirion said:

Closed AVGO at 2.30. 57% loss. Ouch. This one could have benefited from a stop loss.

I got my behind handed to me on this one too... Will probably stay away from long outright premium.. maybe spread to soften the blow..

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4 minutes ago, Sirion said:

Closed AVGO at 2.30. 57% loss. Ouch. This one could have benefited from a stop loss.

Bummer :( I was stopped out of this long ago with a pretty sizeable gain.  Sorry to hear got the raw end!

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Just now, clems said:

Bummer :( I was stopped out of this long ago with a pretty sizeable gain.  Sorry to hear got the raw end!

I went back in for a second pass on a pullback. Overall, slight loss. 

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Just now, Sirion said:

I went back in for a second pass on a pullback. Overall, slight loss. 

Same thing ... Except I double down on my second go around.. .. and turned a winner into a really nice looser.. Great reminder of how not to trade options and why i am here placing none directional trades ;)

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3 hours ago, apsoccermd said:

maybe spread to soften the blow..

You got it. Unless you plan to outright buy single options, and only hold them for 1-2 days, for a directional trade, for anything longer than that, it is a good idea to use verticals to neutralize some of the negative greeks.

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34 minutes ago, Sirion said:

So, we have a few trades coming up that were broadcast. ORCL, MU, and COST. All were advertised for 3-days out. 

ORCL also works well for 7-days out. http://tm.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20171207144431_883OQqBMK6OUaCMq

The other two do not. 

I'm considering looking for a dip to buy in ORCL until the 3-day mark as a strategy. 

I chose COST from the 3 because it opened much lower, and recovered nicely. I got in when it was still down .70. I would think it is going to crack through unchanged into positive territory today.

I always prefer to buy on a dip than to chase a market that is already making it's move.

This was the case with MU, which was already up $1.00, although it still looks excellent.

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18 minutes ago, krisbee said:

I took this one yesterday at 3.41. It's currently sitting at about 4.3. 

I've also just taken the post-earnings 21 day IC on AZO.

 

http://www.cmlviz.com/cmld3b/index.php?number=11712&app=news&cml_article_id=20170918_the-volatility-option-trade-after-earnings-in-autozone-inc&source=TM_insights

 

"Which timeline did you pick for this?"

I know this question is not intended for me, but I went for the 15Dec  

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Just now, Sirion said:

Which timeline did you pick for this? I'm having trouble getting cml to register me as logged in so I can bring up custom earnings to see your entry/exit timing.

I'm not cmlviz subscriber. I'm posting what other members found outside SO forum. 

I entered below

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41 minutes ago, cuegis said:

I chose COST from the 3 because it opened much lower, and recovered nicely. I got in when it was still down .70. I would think it is going to crack through unchanged into positive territory today.

I always prefer to buy on a dip than to chase a market that is already making it's move.

This was the case with MU, which was already up $1.00, although it still looks excellent.

What did you get into cost with and what price ?

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1 minute ago, siddharth310584 said:

What did you get into cost with and what price ?

Just a heads up, cml backtesting does not show a clear edge this far away from earnings for COST. I plan on waiting until 3 days out like what was written up on their newsletter.

 

Edit: Purely based on cml. I'm not a chart or TA guy. 

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2 minutes ago, NikTam said:

I am not seeing ADBE as a good PE trade based on CML back-testing...what am I missing?  I did confirm on Adobe's website that earnings are on 12/14.

http://tm.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20171207160602_3lvZU9vVu4LCKI1n

Main difference between yours and mine is mine closes 0 days before earnings. ADBE apparently has a tendency to spike on the last day.

Still not sure what the difference between mine and what @krisbee posted is to get all the way to 7-1. 

I might wait for a dip in ADBE unless I figure out what that is, or worst case just trade the last day?

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4 minutes ago, Sirion said:

Main difference between yours and mine is mine closes 0 days before earnings. ADBE apparently has a tendency to spike on the last day.

Still not sure what the difference between mine and what @krisbee posted is to get all the way to 7-1. 

I might wait for a dip in ADBE unless I figure out what that is, or worst case just trade the last day?

Yes.  I see that now.  Also it improves if you go to a monthly expiration -- 30 days.  The Jan 5 expiration would be 29 days.

http://tm.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20171207161356_0BgNu4tgMAqhCuAV

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5 minutes ago, IgorK said:

3 days for ORCL and COST - this Friday or next Monday?

From CML support based on a inquiry I made several days ago:  For anything 3-days or less before earnings, we use trading days, not calendar days.

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Just now, NikTam said:

From CML support based on a inquiry I made several days ago:  For anything 3-days or less before earnings, we use trading days, not calendar days.

So next Monday?

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      Long At-the-Money Straddle * Monthly Options * Back-test length: three-years * Open 6-days Before Earnings * Close 1-day Before Earnings * Holding Period: 5-Days per Earnings   Winning Trades: 5 Losing Trades: 7 Pre-Earnings Straddle Return:  17.1%  Annualized Return:  102% 
      We see a 17.1% return, testing this over the last 12 earnings dates in Broadcom Limited. That's a total of just 60 days (5 days for each earnings date, over 12 earnings dates). That's a annualized rate of 102%. 

      We can also see that this strategy hasn't been a winner all the time, rather it has won 5 times and lost 7 times, but here's the key -- it wins about half of the time, but the average gain per winning trade is substantially larger than the average loss on a losing trade: 
       


      Consistently Successful 
      This idea has also been a successful approach over the last two-years:
      Long At-the-Money Straddle * Monthly Options * Back-test length: two-years * Open 6-days Before Earnings * Close 1-day Before Earnings * Holding Period: 5-Days per Earnings   Winning Trades: 4 Losing Trades: 4 Pre-Earnings Straddle Return:  22%  Annualized Return:  198% 
      Now we see a 22% return, testing this over the last 8 earnings dates which is a annualized rate of 198%. 

      Yet again, we see a trade that wins about half the time, but the average win is much larger than the average loss: 
       


      If you really want to see how we found this, and how to do it for other stocks like Apple, Google and Amazon, here is a 1-minute and 34-second video that every professional option trader would rather that you don't see. 

      Learn more here: Try the Back-tester Yourself

      WHAT HAPPENED 
      There are patterns to stock behaviors before and after earnings and those patterns reveal opportunities in the option market, without taking the actual risk of earnings. You can find them, stock by stock. This is how people profit from the option market -- it's preparation, not luck. 

      To see how to do this for any stock we welcome you to watch this quick demonstration video: 
      Tap Here to See the Tools at Work

      Thanks for reading. 

      Risk Disclosure 
      You should read the Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options. 

      Past performance is not an indication of future results. 

      Trading futures and options involves the risk of loss. Please consider carefully whether futures or options are appropriate to your financial situation. Only risk capital should be used when trading futures or options. Investors could lose more than their initial investment. 

      Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results. The risk of loss in trading can be substantial, carefully consider the inherent risks of such an investment in light of your financial condition. 

      Back-test Link
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
    • By Ophir Gottlieb
      The Secret Behind Options Pre-Earnings Trading in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC)
       
       
      Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC): The Wonderful Secret Behind Options Pre-Earnings Trading
      Date Published: 2017-05-4

      PREFACE 
      There is a wonderful secret to trading options right before earnings announcements in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC) , and really many stocks, that benefits from the rising implied volatility but avoids the risk into the actual earnings release and also avoids any kind of stock direction risk. 

      THE WONDERFUL SECRET 
      What a trader wants to do is to see the results of buying an at the money straddle a few days before earnings, and then sell that straddle just before earnings. 

      The goal, is two-fold: (i) to benefit from that known implied volatility rise, and (ii) to own the straddle for a very short period of time when the stock might move 'a lot,' but never take the risk of actually owning options during the earnings release. 

      If either of those two phenomena occur, there's a very good chance this wins, if neither occur, the amount risked is normally quite small. Here is the setup: 
       


      We are testing opening the position in Intel Corporation 6 days before earnings and then closing the position right before earnings. This is not making any earnings bet. This is notmaking any stock direction bet. 

      Once we apply that simple rule to our back-test, we run it on an at-the-money straddle: 

      RETURNS 
      If we did this long at-the-money (also called '50-delta') straddle in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC) over the last three-years but only held it before earnings we get these results: 
       


      We see a 47.8% return, testing this over the last 12 earnings dates in Intel Corporation. That's a total of just 72 days (6 days for each earnings date, over 12 earnings dates). That's a annualized rate of 242%. 

      We can also see that the win/loss rate is split with 6-wins and 6-losses, yet the return is enormous. That means the winning trades are much larger than the losing trades, which is exactly what a successful trading strategy attempts to do. No magic bullets -- rather smart methodologies for wealth creation. 

      MORE TO IT THAN MEETS THE EYE 
      While this strategy is benefiting from the implied volatility rise into earnings for Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC), what it's really doing is far more intelligent. 

      The ideal stocks for this strategy have a couple of common characteristics: 

      (i) The companies rarely pre-announce earnings -- this is an investment that does not look to make an earnings bet, so an earnings pre-announcement is the opposite of what we're hoping for. 

      (ii) The underlying stock price of these companies tend to move a lot (or some) as earnings approach and various institutions and traders shuffle the stock price around in anticipation of the earnings result. The more one sided the outside world starts betting on direction -- up or down, the better it is to own the straddle. 

      WHAT HAPPENED 
      This is it -- this is how people profit from the option market -- it's preparation, not luck. 

      Test the results on Apple Inc and Alphabet Inc, and the results are staggering. 

      To see how to do this for any stock and for any strategy with just the click of a few buttons, we welcome you to watch this quick demonstration video: 
      Tap Here to See the Tools at Work 

      Thanks for reading. 

      Risk Disclosure 
      You should read the Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options. 

      Past performance is not an indication of future results. 

      Trading futures and options involves the risk of loss. Please consider carefully whether futures or options are appropriate to your financial situation. Only risk capital should be used when trading futures or options. Investors could lose more than their initial investment. 

      Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results. The risk of loss in trading can be substantial, carefully consider the inherent risks of such an investment in light of your financial condition. 

      The author has no position in Intel Corporation Inc (NASDAQ:INTC) as of this writing. 

      Back-test Link (does require custom earnings settings).
       
       
       
       
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