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think my response would have been, "i know a guaranteed way to have an account balance of 1.25 million your first year of trading.. start with 2.5 million and quit when you reach 1.25. many have done it, so can you." HA!
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If I had to select one thing that causes most traders to fail, it would be wrong expectations. I know I sound like a broken record, but consider this: when someone wants to become and engineer or an accountant, do they expect to achieve this in a few months? No, they fully expect spending at least 4 years and tends of thousands of dollars in University (not to mention becoming a doctor or a lawyer). And yet, many people read all the hype and expect becoming experts after a few months. When I just started SO, I got an email from one of my Seeking Alpha readers. He told me that he is a big fan of my articles and asked how he can learn more. He wanted to make it his new career. He asked me if I can recommend any books or internet sites to learn/practice the options strategies. Then he said that he is new to trading options, he set aside a small amount of money in hopes of doubling it at least yearly. Don't you find it amazing? The guy admits he is new to options, but wants to double the account "at least yearly". My reply was: "There is a lot of hype surrounding options trading. Some "gurus" out there will make you to believe that doubling your account every 6-12 months is an easy task. If it was, we all would be millionaires by now. My advice to you: if you just start options trading, preserving your capital during your first year of trading would be a great achievement" I didn't hear from him since then. He probably went to one of those charlatans who promise to double your account in one month and charge you few thousand dollars for a week of “one on one consulting”. Many people will tell you what you want to hear to get your hard earned money. Here is another email from one of our former members: "I'm new to options trading. I'm retired and am hoping to make $1.25 million per year by trading" This member cancelled after just 2 weeks. Why I'm not surprised? And honestly, I would be very interested to know the psychology behind people thinking they can have no experience with something, probably not even know how to place an order, and start making money with options right away. A 7 figure income in this case. But maybe it's the same psychology that makes people to believe that they can lose 50 pounds in 2 months without any effort..
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In addition to @InvestTrader, something else that dovetails into position size. Don't "day trade" your positions, and if you are, then ask the nice nurse for another shot and go back to your computer. Seriously, what I mean is, if I have a position open that is getting beat up, I try not to focus on the chart constantly, watching it's every move, this very often leads to me closing or altering the position, in other words, over trading. Sure, there are times I must focus on as specific trade/ticker, but I don't have the temperament to watch the screen, filled with angst like a day trader, finger hovering over the send button. And yet, I still often do it, so I have to constantly control that tendency. I think that one thing has cost me more money than any other.
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For me, finding the appropriate trade size was one of the things that had the most impact on my trading. When the trades are too large for our account or for our ability to handle a loss, the probability of panicking and making wrong decisions is enormous. For me, it is comforting to enter a trade and calmly face the worst possible scenario as something I can take or accept. This gives me the necessary tranquility to make rational and calm decisions regarding trade management. It’s often the difference between winning or losing
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I would advocate this board as a winning strategy. I have traded various strategies for quite some time. Here is my humble thoughts to being profitable... Your win/loss ratio has to be obviously greater than 50%. I would arbitrarily say 2/3 winning minimum. The system you trade must be very transparent about the average and MAX loss. I have seen systems advertised (and tried) the have 85% win ratios. The 15% of the trades that loose can wipe out your gains. I haven't always won. I have become more conservative over the years. This board has an excellent amount of historical data, which is broken down very well into trade type. The posters are excellent in terms of posting trades. Just my 2 cents.
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couldnt agree more, simple is the most difficult of all
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Hi June I see you joined yesterday. You have plenty of posts to learn. There is wealth of knowledge here. Three years is not enough to be profitable trader. It takes 10+ years to be a really profitable trader in most market conditions. Take your time and be prepared for long haul. I have been through 3-4 liquidation events in my career and still trading and going strong even in todays challenging times. You need passion . With passion and perseverance and guidance and hope and discipline and hard work and courage and tiny amount of luck , you can join the elite club of consistently profitable traders who depend on trading for their day to day living.
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Non-directional, volatility-based trades will not drive you crazy. In retrospect on my trading journey, I should have just done what I knew would bring profit from square one as opposed to chasing larger gains. Then just watch the markets until you fully grasp how they move and wait for opportunities. If you can't afford to lose, don't trade it. More conservative trading is better, and take profits when you can. There's so much noise out there with trading that if you find something that works, stick with it because often those are few and far between. I have some 59-day SPY spreads right now and am using SteadyOptions trades as a hedge. I will tell you that it is downright uncomfortable holding through this volatility and uncertainty. It will make you just not want to trade independently. I'm just barely profitable at this point, but much more competent than most, well educated, and exceptionally aware of macroeconomic conditions... most of my losses are attributable to not watching the market for long enough and following bad alerts. Just follow SteadyOptions from square one is the best advice I have for you, and then continue learning from there.
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And this is exactly the key - Why Simple Isn’t Easy
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no one is destined to succeed or fail at trading. you may have a winning strategy but it doesnt suit your personal emotional makeup. you will be miserable, like having a 9 to 5. if you like fast-moving-action trading, you arent suitable for slower strats, no matter how profitable. you will always want more action. and vice versa. you can use the slower strat as a secondary style. i do. find a profitable strategy that matches your psychology and emotional makeup, and the rest is simple; just follow the strat.
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90% if success of failure in trading/investing is related to psychology, human emotions and discipline. Even investors who simply buy an index fund or a mutual fund will have very different results, depending on how they do it. Here are some articles that might help: Probability Vs. Certainty Trap Are You EMOTIONALLY Ready To Lose? Are You Ready For The Learning Curve? Why Retail Investors Lose Money In The Stock Market Why Simple Isn’t Easy Thinking In Terms Of Decades Can you double your account every six months? Is Timeframe Your Biggest Mistake? Are You Following "Tharp Think" Rules? Top 10 Mistakes New Option Traders Make Price Of Options Trading Education How To Become A More Profitable Trader 5 Stages Traders Go Through 10 Fatal Mistakes Traders Make Learning To Win By Learning To Lose How To Avoid Emotional Mistakes In Trading 10,000 Hours Of Trading Bitcoin: The Greater Fool Theory? Investor Discipline Is The Key To Success Buy High, Sell Low: Why Investors Fail How To Control Losses And Protect Profits 10 Tips: Trade Options Like A Pro And Keep Your Day Job
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Hi June, It really depends on the strategy you pick. The Kelly Criterion provides a nice framework for thinking about things - in this model your edge is a combination of win rate (the ratio of winning to losing trades) and risk/reward ratio (the ratio of how much you win for every winning trade, vs how much you lose for every losing trade). The product of both of these had better be more than 1, or you will not have a profitable strategy. Said another way, if you don't have that many winning trades, then those trades you win had better knock it out of the ballpark. It is certainly possible to build such a "tail risk" strategy, eg relying on convexity from being positive gamma / long options. On the other hand, you could also build a high win rate strategy, earning from small wins most of the time. Without knowing the specifics of the strategies you've tried though, it's hard to be more specific. Hope these vague generalities help!
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I get that most traders do not stick to a particular strategy consistently. Or manage risk correctly. And that brokers take money through swaps, commissions, and other fees so that even if each trade was 50/50 they’d lose in the long run. But none of this seems to explain my results through three years of trying to find a profitable edge. It seems no matter which strategy I pick, with risk managed correctly, I lose far more trades than I win. To the degree that my net returns are negative even with my fewer wins being greater. The loss/win ratio is significant. In love trading in backtesting.
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While I'm focusing on ChartAffair and OptionNET Explorer here, I suspect Volatility HQ and ONE might be critical tools (please correct me if I'm wrong here). Are there other services members consider essential for mastering independent trading with SO strategies?
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Hi everyone, I'm a returning paid member currently focusing on deepening my options education. The "Stages of a SO Trader" guide has been invaluable – I've achieved reasonable returns following official trades and now want to master OptionNET Explorer and ChartAffair to develop independent strategies. My questions for experienced members: Account Scaling: The materials suggest a $100K limit for official trades. Have any of you successfully applied SO strategies to larger accounts (e.g., $250K+) after gaining proficiency? Strategy Performance: Could anyone share recent 12-month results or long-term insights on: Anchor Strategies (stability/returns in current market conditions) Steady Collar Strategies (effectiveness for capital preservation) Tool Integration: For those using OptionNET Explorer, what specific features have helped you transition from following trades to developing your own? I'm particularly interested in balancing larger position sizing with SO's risk management principles as I work toward trading a substantially larger account in the future. Thanks in advance for your insights!
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Hello. Is price effect effectively the same as actual earnings move? Price effect Max move Avg Price effect Avg Max move Price effect: last previous cycle stock close after earning/ stock close before earning Max move: last previous cycle stock high or low after earning/ stock close before earning Price effect: average abs(stock close after earning/ stock close before earning) Max move: average abs(stock high or low after earning/ stock close before earning)
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That worked. Thanks @Yowster
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Unchecking the VIX cycles filter worked. Thanks @Yowster!
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This is because VIX is high, you can adjust this by going into Settings and changing (or by simply clicking on this cycle in the legend to show it)...
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@Djtux I'm seeing the same...
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@Djtux When a calendar to straddle page loads the most current cycle is greyed out and I need to click on it for it to display. I'm not sure if others are seeing this as well but I'm wondering if there is a setting I need to change or if it is something on your end? My settings are default with no cycles excluded.
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7 Helpful Tips To Invest Your Money And Time In 2025
Kim posted a article in SteadyOptions Trading Blog
Investing your money and time in 2025 is something that you should learn about and do with as much care as possible. Your money is earned with hard work and so where you invest and spend your own personal time, is important to get right. So here are several helpful tips that will ensure you invest your money and time right in 2025 and beyond. Get the finances in order Before you go investing your money into anything in particular, you’ll want to get your finances in order so that you know exactly what you have available to spend. A lot of mistakes can be made by investing money that’s actually not your own to invest or it’s money that you need to use for fixed bills and debt repayments for example. Getting your finances in order will certainly help you maximize the investment potential that you have when spending your money. A good budget spreadsheet is helpful to have in order to see what you have available to spend. You should also look at what payments you can make towards your investment pot to begin with so that you always have something to play with. See your investment pot as another savings pot to put money into each money from your paycheck. Learn about different investment types There are a lot of different investment types and even more so since the dawn of the internet. Online investments have rocketed into popularity so it’s useful to get to know what a story protocol block explorer is and how digital currencies are becoming an alternative form of currency being used across the globe. Every investment type is different and some are more complex than others. Some pose more of a risk whereas others can be fairly tame when it comes to the level of risk associated with it. Therefore, it’s a good idea to do your research and to make sure you understand the ins and outs of the investment types available. By doing so, you’re going to find your experience with investing a lot easier and more enjoyable. If you don’t understand the investment you’re putting your money into, how can you expect to make a profit or even get your money back? Set financial goals Financial goals are good to have because they’re a motivator for your efforts when investing. It can be exciting to invest your money for the first time but often enough, you’re spending money and waiting for a return to come back on it. Therefore, it’s worthwhile planning financially for the future and setting goals that you feel are either achievable or not too impossible to attain over a period of time. Some goals might be short-term options for the year ahead, while others can stretch to the latter years of your life when you’re looking to retire on the money you make. Setting these financial goals is crucial in life, so you should look at ways in which you want to set yourself up in life financially. Are there certain investments that could increase your potential to hit those goals? All of this is good to think about as you start your investment journey. Diversify your investment portfolio Being able to diversify your investment portfolio is important, and it’s why it’s often harped on when it comes to the topic of investment in general. The more you can diversify your portfolio, the less risk you have across your investments. That’s because the investments you have can end up covering any losses that you might incur through investments that didn’t pan out. Diversifying your investment portfolio takes time and again, it’s important to be aware of what investment types there are and which ones are best to add to your portfolio based on various criteria. Track and monitor investments both short-term and long-term To help with the success of your investments, you don’t want to just put away the money and forget about it. There are some investments that will allow you to do that to some degree but for the most part, you should be tracking and monitoring all of your investments for any subtle or significant changes that happen. Image Source You might need to make some decisions on certain investments in order to protect the money or profit you’ve made. At the same time, it might be that you have to suddenly pull out of an investment to save the money you’ve spent, so it’s good to keep an eye on all of your portfolio regularly. Make use of tax allowances where possible Tax allowances are certainly something to be mindful of when it comes to spending your money on investments. Certain investments will come with tax benefits, so it’s good to research and explore this area of investing as not everyone takes full advantage of it to help save themselves money. From rental properties to donations, there are tax relief opportunities available but it’s not something that’s necessarily going to be shouted about from the rooftops. It’s important to know what these are as you investment in each asset. Always be aware of the risks Finally, as with all investment opportunities, there will always be risks attached to the investments so it’s good to know what these risks are and how low or high stakes it is. It’s also worth remembering that no investment is guaranteed to give you your money back, let alone make a return. That means you should be aware of how much money you can afford to spend. Investing your money and time is certainly worthwhile if it’s done right. Make sure you’re investing your money wisely in 2025. This is a contributed post. -
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@Djtux What is the purpose of https://www.volatilityhq.com/backtester/non_earning_income_scanner/. Could you please explain or put some comments on the columns heads please?
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It looks like 2 out of 3 on your site have it as confirmed https://i.imgur.com/mYDMGEW.png
