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1 hour ago, cwerner376 said:

SYMC 7-1 trade has turned around is now at the break even point from Wed.  Technicals look good for anyone who missed entry on Wed or is looking at adding to their position.  Please let me know if anyone sees anything different.

Keep in mind that on the 3-1 PE trades that the day of earnings drives the "day count".  If you look at the history by clicking on the results window you can see that these trades were made on Monday and exited on Tuesday -- bc SYMC announces on Wed.  See below for response from CML Support.  So the trade backtesting assumes a Monday entry and then a Tuesday exit.

 

NOW I SEE you are referencing a 7-1 PE trade.  My bad.  Still the clarification below is useful.

 

So, currently the system basically uses a "trading days" style calculation only if earnings is on Monday or Tuesday and if the 'days before' number is <= 5. Otherwise the system uses calendar days. These earnings events are on Wednesday. Since the trade can't open on a Saturday or Sunday, the first day that is <= 3 days before earnings is Monday. Then, Tuesday is the day before earnings, so, you are just seeing 1 trading day instead of 2. For this stock, you can simply increase the days before earnings if you want to force it to open on Friday.
 
That said, we do have plans in the works to create a true trading days calculations that always opens and closes the correct number of days before or after earnings, irrespective of day of week, and that is also "holiday aware". We're hoping to have that out within about 4 weeks.

 

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Closed MSFT 7-1 PE Call for 50.6% gain after commissions. In Feb2 93.5 Call for $1.47; Out $2.236 avg. I closed in stages throughout the day, but it still jumped up to the $2.50 range just before close, so that's the third time I've seen this in the last week or so.

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4 minutes ago, greenspan76 said:

Closed MSFT 7-1 PE Call for 50.6% gain after commissions. In Feb2 93.5 Call for $1.47; Out $2.236 avg. I closed in stages throughout the day, but it still jumped up to the $2.50 range just before close, so that's the third time I've seen this in the last week or so.

Also closed half of my MSFT call for 1 day 30% gain.  Also sold half my LLY calls for quick (1 hour) 25% gain.  Will stay with the balance of these positions into Monday or Tuesday.  These 2 helped me forget my SHW loss :-)

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Closed MSFT PE 

On 1/26/2018 at 9:01 AM, NikTam said:

Entered MSFT PE 7-1 40 Delta Feb 2 94 call.  Filled at 1.75 and 1.80   This was right off the CML Discover Tab.

Just exited second half of this position at 2.70 for 50% net gain.

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Per CML Discover:

Entered MSFT PE 7-1, 40 Delta Feb 2 93.5 Call @1.57 on Jan 24, 3:19p

Exit @3.05 on Jan 29 3:50p

94% profit (Did not exit at the suggested limit gain of 40%, took the risk)

 

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In analyzing my CML performance over the last 2 earning seasons...The 14 and 7 day pre earnings trades are far more successful than the 3 day trades.  Maybe its because I am still not executing them correctly.  But for now, no more 3 days for this trader.

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29 minutes ago, krisbee said:

SOLD for 3.1 just now. 54%

now selling price is 3.35

Thanks for the heads up on this price pop! Was just about to head into a meeting.

 

Edit:

Got a chance to look at my numbers. Entered one at 2.3 debit and one at 2.44 debit and exited both at 3.3 credit. 39.2% gain. (I bought the feb16, 70 strike expiration to be more conservative)

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NVDA 7-1 PE long call (link is old and does not include previous cycle in november, but looking at the price charts, it was a winner as well)

http://www.cmlviz.com/cmld3b/index.php?number=11768&app=news&cml_article_id=20171022_the-one-week-pre-earnings-momentum-trade-in-nvidia&source=TM_insights

 

Earnings confirmed for Feb8, AC, so entry would be tomorrow.

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15 minutes ago, akito said:

NVDA 7-1 PE long call (link is old and does not include previous cycle in november, but looking at the price charts, it was a winner as well)

http://www.cmlviz.com/cmld3b/index.php?number=11768&app=news&cml_article_id=20171022_the-one-week-pre-earnings-momentum-trade-in-nvidia&source=TM_insights

 

Earnings confirmed for Feb8, AC, so entry would be tomorrow.

I wonder if entry today would be viable, because a lot of QQQ stocks report today/tomorrow, and good earnings might drag up NVDA up with it. I suppose the reverse could be true. Hm.

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9 minutes ago, Sirion said:

I wonder if entry today would be viable, because a lot of QQQ stocks report today/tomorrow, and good earnings might drag up NVDA up with it. I suppose the reverse could be true. Hm.

The backtests for 8 to 1 is nowhere as good.

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6 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

What do ppl think about teva. The entry was supposed to be today but it is already up 4% 

Looks interesting -- it's a straddle.  Maybe look at it at end of the day for a pullback?

It's close to filling the gap created on Tuesday.  So that could mean more upside.

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11 minutes ago, NikTam said:

I like this one.  NVDA PE 7-1 Feb 9 40 delta http://tm.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20180201172109_mg3O9MzUldlB2MeR

Even with triggers set at 40% gain and 25% stop loss this looks good.  Buy today.

 

7 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

What do ppl think about teva. The entry was supposed to be today but it is already up 4% 

Planning to enter both of these later today (TEVA PE 7-1 Feb16 50delta Straddle)

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2 minutes ago, greenspan76 said:

 

Planning to enter both of these later today (TEVA PE 7-1 Straddle Feb16 50 delta)

@greenspan76  are you thinking ATM at 21?  The Feb 9 calls have very high IV (86%) and .50 price intervals.   But so does Feb 16 (72%).

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1 minute ago, NikTam said:

@greenspan76  are you thinking ATM at 21?  The Feb 9 calls have very high IV (86%) and .50 price intervals.   But so does Feb 16 (72%).

Depends on where it trades toward end of day. If it is within $0.15 of a strike, I'll do that straddle. If not, I'll probably do a strangle. Right now, that'd be a 21/21.5 strangle

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8 minutes ago, greenspan76 said:

Planning to enter both of these later today (TEVA PE 7-1 Feb16 50delta Straddle)

That's interesting. That might be roughly equivalent to enter T-5 business days before earning date and exiting T-0 (trading day just before the announcement).

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Also is you check last ER trade (the one with also expensive Straddle) in CML, it is not profitable.

It is gamma you rely on if you enter this trade in current conditions, I believe.

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3 minutes ago, Antoxa said:

TEVA Straddle is pretty expensive nowadays.

 

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Very interesting.  So last year (11-1) straddle was priced at 9% of stock price.  Which is right now is 21.32 which gives a straddle price of 1.91.  But the average is closer to 5.5% which is closer to 1.17 based on today's price.  Yes, the current price seems very high.  But does IV figure in to this?  Is it higher now than it was in these previous iterations? 

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2 minutes ago, NikTam said:

Very interesting.  So last year (11-1) straddle was priced at 9% of stock price.  Which is right now is 21.32 which gives a straddle price of 1.91.  But the average is closer to 5.5% which is closer to 1.17 based on today's price.  Yes, the current price seems very high.  But does IV figure in to this?  Is it higher now than it was in these previous iterations? 

As far as I understand RV represents IV in a way it can be compared with previous cycles.

Straddle price = IV. If you normalize it to stock price you get RV.

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1 minute ago, Antoxa said:

As far as I understand RV represents IV in a way it can be compared with previous cycles.

Straddle price = IV. If you normalize it to stock price you get RV.

This is what I don't understand but would really like to.  How is RV calculated and what does it encompass?  Is the RV result (as a %) simply the calculation of option price divided by price of stock -- or is there more to it?

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5 minutes ago, NikTam said:

This is what I don't understand but would really like to.  How is RV calculated and what does it encompass?  Is the RV result (as a %) simply the calculation of option price divided by price of stock -- or is there more to it?

It is price of straddle divided by underlying's price.

 

At the moment TEVA is 21.5

It's 21.5 Straddle is 2.20

RV is 2.20 / 21.5 = 0.102 (10.2%)

 

This means that market implies 10.2% move by the expiration (Feb9)

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7 minutes ago, Antoxa said:

It is price of straddle divided by underlying's price.

 

At the moment TEVA is 21.5

It's 21.5 Straddle is 2.20

RV is 2.20 / 21.5 = 0.102 (10.2%)

 

This means that market implies 10.2% move by the expiration (Feb9)

So do we then compare that 10.2% implied move with previous results?

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45 minutes ago, Djtux said:

That's interesting. That might be roughly equivalent to enter T-5 business days before earning date and exiting T-0 (trading day just before the announcement).

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This is a very interesting chart.  Is it as simple as it appears -- so the T-5 result is a median return of 32% gain?  So buying the ATM straddle 5 days before earnings and exiting the day of earnings (assuming earnings are after market close) yields this median result?

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1 minute ago, NikTam said:

So do we then compare that 10.2% implied move with previous results?

Yep.

Recent 3 ERs were as follows:

Implied/Actual

5.3% / 2.0%

5.3% / 24%

9.1% / 19.9%

As you can see last two actual moves were huge. So we can expect IV of current cycle to be elevated as well. It will probably stay around 9-10%.

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48 minutes ago, Djtux said:

That's interesting. That might be roughly equivalent to enter T-5 business days before earning date and exiting T-0 (trading day just before the announcement).

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But how is this "roughly equivalent"?  We're talking about entering at T-7....

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1 minute ago, Antoxa said:

Yep.

Recent 3 ERs were as follows:

Implied/Actual

5.3% / 2.0%

5.3% / 24%

9.1% / 19.9%

As you can see last two actual moves were huge. So we can expect IV of current cycle to be elevated as well. It will probably stay around 9-10%.

So if we're already at 10.2% implied move, that would appear to not allow much room for gain.  This is what I don't get.

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4 minutes ago, NikTam said:

So if we're already at 10.2% implied move, that would appear to not allow much room for gain.  This is what I don't get.

You never expect Straddle to grow in price as expiration approaches. The idea here is to not lose too much while you get gains from gamma.

So if you can manage to get in for 10% you minimize your chances for downside, it will not drop much lower (if IV stays around 10% at ER), but you give yourself a chance to get gain from IV spike or stock moving (gamma).

Around 10% gain is pretty solid expected gain from trade like this.

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I have a small buy order for the Feb 16 ATM straddle for 2.20, which is at 10% approximately. The mid is around 2.50, so I am not sure if I will be filled. The mean of the one day max move is around 8%, so the 10% is already an overpriced proposition in my mind. Does not look that great in terms of value from the chart attached below.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Maji said:

I have a small buy order for the Feb 16 ATM straddle for 2.20, which is at 10% approximately. The mid is around 2.50, so I am not sure if I will be filled. The mean of the one day max move is around 8%, so the 10% is already an overpriced proposition in my mind. Does not look that great in terms of value from the chart attached below.

Just a heads up, I don't think you are comparing apples to apples in your post. The RV chart is for the closest expiration to ER, which would be feb9 while you are looking at the feb16 expiration. Naturally, the later expiration will be more expensive. The feb9 21.5 straddle is already at 2.18, so if you want a price of around 2.2, you can already have it.

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Regarding TEVA straddle - note that this is a very high IV stock, and as such gamma gains will grow pretty slowly as the stock price moves.   If you enter this trade, keep a close eye on RV level because any drop in RV could easily wipe out any gamma gains. 

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42 minutes ago, mustafaoe said:

@Djtux How can I get this chart from https://www.volatilityhq.com

I'm still working on that feature so it's hidden (sorry for teasing you), but you could see that chart at https://www.volatilityhq.com/backtester/return_matrix/?symbol=TEVA&start_date=2017-02-01&strategy_type=Straddle&submit=Run+backtest

There is no link in the menu to access it at this moment as i'm still working on that and there might be bugs left.

37 minutes ago, NikTam said:

This is a very interesting chart.  Is it as simple as it appears -- so the T-5 result is a median return of 32% gain?  So buying the ATM straddle 5 days before earnings and exiting the day of earnings (assuming earnings are after market close) yields this median result?

T-5 means 5 trading days before earnings. I'm not sure yet what is the best way to aggregate the return : median ? total return using 1 contract ? total return using the same dollar amount allocation ?

36 minutes ago, NikTam said:

But how is this "roughly equivalent"?  We're talking about entering at T-7....

CML uses T-7 in calendar days whereas T-5 for me means 5 trading days, so it should be in general the same as there are 2 weekend days between 7 calendar days.

I believe using trading day is more consistent as if you say T-3 calendar days, what happens if you end up in a weekend ?

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2 minutes ago, Djtux said:

I'm still working on that feature so it's hidden (sorry for teasing you), but you could see that chart at https://www.volatilityhq.com/backtester/return_matrix/?symbol=TEVA&start_date=2017-02-01&strategy_type=Straddle&submit=Run+backtest

There is no link in the menu to access it at this moment as i'm still working on that and there might be bugs left.

T-5 means 5 trading days before earnings. I'm not sure yet what is the best way to aggregate the return : median ? total return using 1 contract ? total return using the same dollar amount allocation ?

CML uses T-7 in calendar days whereas T-5 for me means 5 trading days, so it should be in general the same as there are 2 weekend days between 7 calendar days.

I believe using trading day is more consistent as if you say T-3 calendar days, what happens if you end up in a weekend ?

This looks very good. I am looking for the official version. Thx for this feature.

On 1/17/2018 at 10:09 PM, NikTam said:

I'm not feeling it for these tickers.  Not compelling back test results.  And wide spreads and low volume.

 

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7 minutes ago, Yowster said:

Regarding TEVA straddle - note that this is a very high IV stock, and as such gamma gains will grow pretty slowly as the stock price moves.   If you enter this trade, keep a close eye on RV level because any drop in RV could easily wipe out any gamma gains. 

@Yowster, is it possible to calculate what would be a gain per $1 of move?

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10 minutes ago, Antoxa said:

It would make sense to enter around 2.10-2.15 for Feb9 I believe, which is 9.8-10% RV (assuming stock price is around 21.5).

that is true... I was looking at the Feb 16 straddle. 

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      Trading futures and options involves the risk of loss. Please consider carefully whether futures or options are appropriate to your financial situation. Only risk capital should be used when trading futures or options. Investors could lose more than their initial investment. 

      Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results. The risk of loss in trading can be substantial, carefully consider the inherent risks of such an investment in light of your financial condition. 

      The author has no position in Autodesk Inc (NASDAQ:ADSK) as of this writing. 

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    • By Ophir Gottlieb
      How to Trade Options Before Earnings in Broadcom Limited (NASDAQ:AVGO)

       
      How to Trade Options Before Earnings in Broadcom Limited (NASDAQ:AVGO)
      Date Published: 2017-05-15 

      PREFACE 
      Trading options in a short window before earnings are released benefits from the rising implied volatility but avoids the risk into the actual earnings release and also avoids any kind of stock direction risk. 

      This approach has returned a annualized rate of 198%. Now that's worth looking into. 

      STORY 
      Everyone knows that the day of an earnings announcement is a risky event for a stock. This can be explicitly seen in the option market, where the implied volatility (the expected stock move) rises into the earnings event. 

      The question every option trader, whether professional or amateur, has long asked is if there is a way to profit from this known volatility rise. It turns out, that over the long-run, for stocks with certain tendencies like Broadcom Limited (NASDAQ:AVGO) the answer is actually, yes. 
       
      Yes, there is a systematic way to trade this repeating phenomenon, without making a bet on earnings or stock direction.

      THE SET UP 
      What a trader wants to do is to see the results of buying an at the money straddle a few days before earnings, and then sell that straddle just before earnings. The goal, is two-fold: (i) to benefit from that known implied volatility rise, and (ii) to own the straddle for a very short period of time when the stock might move 'a lot,' but taking no earnings bets. 

      If either of those two phenomena occur, there's a very good chance this wins, if neither occur, the amount risked is normally quite small. Here is the setup: 
       


      We are testing opening the position 6 days before earnings and then closing the position 1 day before earnings. This is not making any earnings bet. This is not making any stock direction bet. 

      Once we apply that simple rule to our back-test, we run it on an at-the-money straddle: 

      RETURNS 
      If we did this long at-the-money (also called '50-delta') straddle in Broadcom Limited (NASDAQ:AVGO) over the last three-years but only held it before earnings we get these results: 
       
      Long At-the-Money Straddle * Monthly Options * Back-test length: three-years * Open 6-days Before Earnings * Close 1-day Before Earnings * Holding Period: 5-Days per Earnings   Winning Trades: 5 Losing Trades: 7 Pre-Earnings Straddle Return:  17.1%  Annualized Return:  102% 
      We see a 17.1% return, testing this over the last 12 earnings dates in Broadcom Limited. That's a total of just 60 days (5 days for each earnings date, over 12 earnings dates). That's a annualized rate of 102%. 

      We can also see that this strategy hasn't been a winner all the time, rather it has won 5 times and lost 7 times, but here's the key -- it wins about half of the time, but the average gain per winning trade is substantially larger than the average loss on a losing trade: 
       


      Consistently Successful 
      This idea has also been a successful approach over the last two-years:
      Long At-the-Money Straddle * Monthly Options * Back-test length: two-years * Open 6-days Before Earnings * Close 1-day Before Earnings * Holding Period: 5-Days per Earnings   Winning Trades: 4 Losing Trades: 4 Pre-Earnings Straddle Return:  22%  Annualized Return:  198% 
      Now we see a 22% return, testing this over the last 8 earnings dates which is a annualized rate of 198%. 

      Yet again, we see a trade that wins about half the time, but the average win is much larger than the average loss: 
       


      If you really want to see how we found this, and how to do it for other stocks like Apple, Google and Amazon, here is a 1-minute and 34-second video that every professional option trader would rather that you don't see. 

      Learn more here: Try the Back-tester Yourself

      WHAT HAPPENED 
      There are patterns to stock behaviors before and after earnings and those patterns reveal opportunities in the option market, without taking the actual risk of earnings. You can find them, stock by stock. This is how people profit from the option market -- it's preparation, not luck. 

      To see how to do this for any stock we welcome you to watch this quick demonstration video: 
      Tap Here to See the Tools at Work

      Thanks for reading. 

      Risk Disclosure 
      You should read the Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options. 

      Past performance is not an indication of future results. 

      Trading futures and options involves the risk of loss. Please consider carefully whether futures or options are appropriate to your financial situation. Only risk capital should be used when trading futures or options. Investors could lose more than their initial investment. 

      Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results. The risk of loss in trading can be substantial, carefully consider the inherent risks of such an investment in light of your financial condition. 

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    • By Ophir Gottlieb
      The Secret Behind Options Pre-Earnings Trading in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC)
       
       
      Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC): The Wonderful Secret Behind Options Pre-Earnings Trading
      Date Published: 2017-05-4

      PREFACE 
      There is a wonderful secret to trading options right before earnings announcements in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC) , and really many stocks, that benefits from the rising implied volatility but avoids the risk into the actual earnings release and also avoids any kind of stock direction risk. 

      THE WONDERFUL SECRET 
      What a trader wants to do is to see the results of buying an at the money straddle a few days before earnings, and then sell that straddle just before earnings. 

      The goal, is two-fold: (i) to benefit from that known implied volatility rise, and (ii) to own the straddle for a very short period of time when the stock might move 'a lot,' but never take the risk of actually owning options during the earnings release. 

      If either of those two phenomena occur, there's a very good chance this wins, if neither occur, the amount risked is normally quite small. Here is the setup: 
       


      We are testing opening the position in Intel Corporation 6 days before earnings and then closing the position right before earnings. This is not making any earnings bet. This is notmaking any stock direction bet. 

      Once we apply that simple rule to our back-test, we run it on an at-the-money straddle: 

      RETURNS 
      If we did this long at-the-money (also called '50-delta') straddle in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC) over the last three-years but only held it before earnings we get these results: 
       


      We see a 47.8% return, testing this over the last 12 earnings dates in Intel Corporation. That's a total of just 72 days (6 days for each earnings date, over 12 earnings dates). That's a annualized rate of 242%. 

      We can also see that the win/loss rate is split with 6-wins and 6-losses, yet the return is enormous. That means the winning trades are much larger than the losing trades, which is exactly what a successful trading strategy attempts to do. No magic bullets -- rather smart methodologies for wealth creation. 

      MORE TO IT THAN MEETS THE EYE 
      While this strategy is benefiting from the implied volatility rise into earnings for Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC), what it's really doing is far more intelligent. 

      The ideal stocks for this strategy have a couple of common characteristics: 

      (i) The companies rarely pre-announce earnings -- this is an investment that does not look to make an earnings bet, so an earnings pre-announcement is the opposite of what we're hoping for. 

      (ii) The underlying stock price of these companies tend to move a lot (or some) as earnings approach and various institutions and traders shuffle the stock price around in anticipation of the earnings result. The more one sided the outside world starts betting on direction -- up or down, the better it is to own the straddle. 

      WHAT HAPPENED 
      This is it -- this is how people profit from the option market -- it's preparation, not luck. 

      Test the results on Apple Inc and Alphabet Inc, and the results are staggering. 

      To see how to do this for any stock and for any strategy with just the click of a few buttons, we welcome you to watch this quick demonstration video: 
      Tap Here to See the Tools at Work 

      Thanks for reading. 

      Risk Disclosure 
      You should read the Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options. 

      Past performance is not an indication of future results. 

      Trading futures and options involves the risk of loss. Please consider carefully whether futures or options are appropriate to your financial situation. Only risk capital should be used when trading futures or options. Investors could lose more than their initial investment. 

      Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results. The risk of loss in trading can be substantial, carefully consider the inherent risks of such an investment in light of your financial condition. 

      The author has no position in Intel Corporation Inc (NASDAQ:INTC) as of this writing. 

      Back-test Link (does require custom earnings settings).
       
       
       
       
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