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49 minutes ago, krisbee said:

I will probably do this one tomorrow, but I have to remind myself that most of the profit for this test came in an one outrageous move in May 2015. The other profits were much smaller than this, and so in this case, one earnings has distorted the overall picture, in a positive way. The 9:3 ratio is good though.

 

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1 minute ago, zxcv64 said:

I will probably do this one tomorrow, but I have to remind myself that most of the profit for this test came in an one outrageous move in May 2015. The other profits were much smaller than this, and so in this case, one earnings has distorted the overall picture, in a positive way. The 9:3 ratio is good though.

 

CML test says 3 days before...  Tomorrow will be 9 days... Do I miss something?

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Just now, IgorK said:

Do I miss something?

No, you are fine....it's me who is suffering from a case of distorted thinking :-)

 

I meant "I will open this trade on the day that is recommended by the CML test".

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6 hours ago, krisbee said:

I think this time earnings might be on March 20th. Option exp on 3/23.

looks like 3/19 according to ORCL website

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A straddle with a difference - post earnings. 

Stock : TGT

What : buy a 50 delta long straddle

When : Open 1 day after earnings and close 7 days after

What's the return: 318% over 3 years with a 8:3 win:loss ratio.

https://tm3.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20180303120101_hiJrSCLPg1ORfusg

 

I'll open this later on in the day when the vol and stock have reached some sort of equilibrium.

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Here is a table from Optionslam that lists the post earnings move by TGT.

 

EARNINGS DATE PRE-EARNINGS CLOSE POST-EARNINGS OPEN PERCENTAGES REPRESENT PRICE CHANGE RELATIVE TO PRE-EARNINGS CLOSE FOR SPECIFIED NUMBER OF CALENDAR DAYS
PRICE PERC% 1 DAY 3 DAYS 5 DAYS 8 DAYS 13 DAYS 21 DAYS 34 DAYS 55 DAYS
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Tue 03/06/2018 BO $75.14 $74.25 -1.18% -4.45% N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Wed 11/15/2017 BO $60.09 $56.26 -6.37% -9.86% -3.24% -3.24% -4.32% -7.07% 3.51% 6.64% 11.79%
Wed 08/16/2017 BO $54.35 $57.00 4.87% 3.6% 2.39% 2.39% 3.88% 0.16% 5.51% 8.72% 3.49%
Wed 05/17/2017 BO $54.53 $56.96 4.45% 0.93% 2.67% 2.67% -0.73% -0.23% 0.09% -5.17% -7.97%
Tue 02/28/2017 BO $66.91 $57.41 -14.19% -12.16% -13.39% -14.28% -17.59% -17.26% -18.74% -17.51% -18.12%
Wed 11/16/2016 BO $71.44 $77.50 8.48% 6.42% 6.64% 6.64% 9.85% 8.79% 7.46% 7.83% -0.01%
Wed 08/17/2016 BO $75.48 $70.48 -6.62% -6.42% -7.1% -7.1% -4.96% -5.86% -7.12% -8.73% -8.77%
Wed 05/18/2016 BO $73.61 $67.48 -8.32% -7.62% -6.72% -6.72% -5.88% -6.39% -7.29% -7.63% -1.45%
Wed 02/24/2016 BO $73.98 $74.39 0.54% 3.98% 6.0% 6.0% 9.6% 9.23% 10.35% 11.9% 12.74%
Wed 11/18/2015 BO $72.91 $71.64 -1.74% -4.29% -2.85% -2.85% 0.34% -0.56% -0.34% -1.64% -0.67%
 

 

Looks like the average 8 day move (taking the highest and lowest out) is around 4% ish. Those are nice gains for a 4% move.

 

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Thanks Maji, this is very useful. A 4% gain would be enough to give a good profit on a straddle, depending on how soon it happened after the position opening, and how the volatility held up.

Do you know if the figures in your table are the closing daily prices? 

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Just now, rasar said:

Anyone holding MRVL ? What's the thinking ?

I'm about 38% gain, so i might close that today. I believe the earnings are tomorrow AMC.

What's your position %P&L ?

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53% in 2 tranches - 76% on one half, and 34% on the other.

Najarian was on CNBC talking about buying the 25 calls and holding for 10-12 days, which awakened the greedy pig in me.

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3 hours ago, zxcv64 said:

A straddle with a difference - post earnings. 

Stock : TGT

What : buy a 50 delta long straddle

When : Open 1 day after earnings and close 7 days after

What's the return: 318% over 3 years with a 8:3 win:loss ratio.

https://tm3.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20180303120101_hiJrSCLPg1ORfusg

 

I'll open this later on in the day when the vol and stock have reached some sort of equilibrium.

I just bought the Mar 16 71.5 straddle for 2.65

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1 minute ago, NikTam said:

I just bought the Mar 16 71.5 straddle for 2.65

You got in cheaper than I did at 2.72 an hour ago. Lets see how this one goes. I'm curious to do more CML trades which are different from the long call variety.

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4 minutes ago, Sirion said:

MRVL minor loss (1%?), NAV ~-33% loss. 

I exited my MRVL today after my 40% gain exit triggered. In 0.76 out 1.07.

What was your entry strike, expiry, price ?

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Just now, Djtux said:

I exited my MRVL today after my 40% gain exit triggered. In 0.76 out 1.07.

What was your entry strike, expiry, price ?

I entered at a much less opportune time - this was MRVL #3 for me. I exited just now for my Mar 9 18 24.5 at .55. Entry was the same I think (maybe .56?, not showing on my screen in tradier). I was showing a loss which recovered today.

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Just exited NAV for 37% loss.   Better than the 53% loss I was seeing this morning.

Exited COST this morning for 42% loss.  It got worse so glad I exited early.

 

Bearish and/or choppy markets don't always ruin these momentum plays, but it seems to me they often do.

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Exited MRVL. Didn't seem to want to break past the 23.90 resistance. 2 lots - 23.5 Call Bought 0.59, Sold 1.07, and 24 Call Bought 0.60, Sold 0.84.

Thanks @Djtux

 

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TGT straddle looking good.  I will exit for gain if it hits 68.75.   Then look for another entry.

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2 hours ago, rasar said:

Exited MRVL. Didn't seem to want to break past the 23.90 resistance. 2 lots - 23.5 Call Bought 0.59, Sold 1.07, and 24 Call Bought 0.60, Sold 0.84.

Thanks @Djtux

 

Dang...and there goes MRVL. 24.14, for anyone still in the trade.

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23 hours ago, NikTam said:

TGT straddle looking good.  I will exit for gain if it hits 68.75.   Then look for another entry.

I missed my chance yesterday for a decent gain.  TGT now recovering.

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7 minutes ago, NikTam said:

I missed my chance yesterday for a decent gain.  TGT now recovering.

That and volatility is down significantly today across the board. Some of our SO straddles are struggling too.

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Closed two trades this morning:

AVGO Mar23 255 Call: In $6.50, Out $12, Gain of 84% - I got out early as I was concerned this was a temporary news-based jump in price and it was an already great gain.

MU Mar23 57.5 Call: In $1.77, Out $3.73 avg, Gain of 109% - probably got  a little too eager to exit when I saw 100%+ gains. Price is $4.15 as of this writing.

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18 minutes ago, siddharth310584 said:

Were these trades from the cml newsletter ?

Yes. AVGO was posted in August (don't have the link, but the setup is 50delta Call 14DTE 6/0, SL/LG 50%) and MU was just posted a few days ago (http://www.cmlviz.com/cmld3b/index.php?number=11964&app=news&cml_article_id=20180306_micron-technology-inc-momentum-comes-in-short-bursts-ahead-of-earnings)

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2 hours ago, IgorK said:

7:2 ratio for 60 and 50 deltas. is it to look for? 40 delta ratio is 6:2

I opened few NKE 66 calls. (march 23)

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NKE PE Momentum:  I like the 40 delta.  Have bid in for Mar 23 68.5 call.  Just filled at 1.26NKE 40 Delta.png

 

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20 hours ago, ykotowitz said:

Note: 7 to 0 days is much better at delta =50. (for 2years). delta =30 is best for 1 or 3 years.

I would agree -- will look to get in 3/22 (T-7) or 3/20 (T-5).  Will also give more time to see if we get a better trend.

RH 40 Delta.png

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10 minutes ago, NikTam said:

NKE PE Momentum:  I like the 40 delta.  Have bid in for Mar 23 68.5 call.  Just filled at 1.26

Looking good, but i already have a hedged straddle on NKE, so i can't allocate more on NKE.

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55 minutes ago, NikTam said:

NKE PE Momentum:  I like the 40 delta.  Have bid in for Mar 23 68.5 call.  Just filled at 1.26NKE 40 Delta.png

 

The same...  Do you have a stop limit?

And it is down...

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2 hours ago, IgorK said:

The same...  Do you have a stop limit?

And it is down...

CORRECTION I have a stop loss alert set at 65.90.  I do have a GTC sell to close order at 50% gain.

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1 minute ago, NikTam said:

I have a stop loss alert set at 65.50.  I do have a GTC sell to close order at 50% gain.

Thank you..  looking at the charts don't you think that momentum was yesterday around 14:30?

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55 minutes ago, greenspan76 said:

I also picked up a NKE pre-earnings call a little earlier, but I chose to go with the Apr20 67.5 Call (50delta) for $2.08.

That looks good too.  I liked the extra "heat" showing up on the 40 delta.

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I'm missing out on a few of this trade type (pre earnings long call). I'm in NKE straddle, so I'm okay there, but definitely want to put on 2+ of these in the next few days.

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7 minutes ago, IgorK said:

Thank you..  looking at the charts don't you think that momentum was yesterday around 14:30?

Yes it does appear so.  Hopefully it will come back as we get nearer to earnings.

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20 hours ago, NikTam said:

CORRECTION I have a stop loss alert set at 65.90.  

Looks like it's coming there. yesterday was high IV day...  ORCL 53 straddle is down too...

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1 minute ago, rasar said:

I'm still holding. I got in the 68 call at 1.25 yesterday.

Looks like thre is some correlation between VXX and NKE.  If VXX down - NKE up. And vice versa :)

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Hi,

I am considering purchasing the CML TradeMachine software and am wondering if anyone who has been using it for a while would be willing to post their results.

Thanks very much,

Mark

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12 minutes ago, Mark100 said:

and am wondering if anyone who has been using it for a while would be willing to post their results.

I believe there are at least a couple of experienced guys on here who have a good track record with CML. 

Give me another week or so, and when I have completed another 7 trades, I will post my results (currently on 93 CML trades).

 

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      This idea has also been a successful approach over the last two-years:
      Long At-the-Money Straddle * Monthly Options * Back-test length: two-years * Open 6-days Before Earnings * Close 1-day Before Earnings * Holding Period: 5-Days per Earnings   Winning Trades: 4 Losing Trades: 4 Pre-Earnings Straddle Return:  22%  Annualized Return:  198% 
      Now we see a 22% return, testing this over the last 8 earnings dates which is a annualized rate of 198%. 

      Yet again, we see a trade that wins about half the time, but the average win is much larger than the average loss: 
       


      If you really want to see how we found this, and how to do it for other stocks like Apple, Google and Amazon, here is a 1-minute and 34-second video that every professional option trader would rather that you don't see. 

      Learn more here: Try the Back-tester Yourself

      WHAT HAPPENED 
      There are patterns to stock behaviors before and after earnings and those patterns reveal opportunities in the option market, without taking the actual risk of earnings. You can find them, stock by stock. This is how people profit from the option market -- it's preparation, not luck. 

      To see how to do this for any stock we welcome you to watch this quick demonstration video: 
      Tap Here to See the Tools at Work

      Thanks for reading. 

      Risk Disclosure 
      You should read the Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options. 

      Past performance is not an indication of future results. 

      Trading futures and options involves the risk of loss. Please consider carefully whether futures or options are appropriate to your financial situation. Only risk capital should be used when trading futures or options. Investors could lose more than their initial investment. 

      Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results. The risk of loss in trading can be substantial, carefully consider the inherent risks of such an investment in light of your financial condition. 

      Back-test Link
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
    • By Ophir Gottlieb
      The Secret Behind Options Pre-Earnings Trading in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC)
       
       
      Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC): The Wonderful Secret Behind Options Pre-Earnings Trading
      Date Published: 2017-05-4

      PREFACE 
      There is a wonderful secret to trading options right before earnings announcements in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC) , and really many stocks, that benefits from the rising implied volatility but avoids the risk into the actual earnings release and also avoids any kind of stock direction risk. 

      THE WONDERFUL SECRET 
      What a trader wants to do is to see the results of buying an at the money straddle a few days before earnings, and then sell that straddle just before earnings. 

      The goal, is two-fold: (i) to benefit from that known implied volatility rise, and (ii) to own the straddle for a very short period of time when the stock might move 'a lot,' but never take the risk of actually owning options during the earnings release. 

      If either of those two phenomena occur, there's a very good chance this wins, if neither occur, the amount risked is normally quite small. Here is the setup: 
       


      We are testing opening the position in Intel Corporation 6 days before earnings and then closing the position right before earnings. This is not making any earnings bet. This is notmaking any stock direction bet. 

      Once we apply that simple rule to our back-test, we run it on an at-the-money straddle: 

      RETURNS 
      If we did this long at-the-money (also called '50-delta') straddle in Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC) over the last three-years but only held it before earnings we get these results: 
       


      We see a 47.8% return, testing this over the last 12 earnings dates in Intel Corporation. That's a total of just 72 days (6 days for each earnings date, over 12 earnings dates). That's a annualized rate of 242%. 

      We can also see that the win/loss rate is split with 6-wins and 6-losses, yet the return is enormous. That means the winning trades are much larger than the losing trades, which is exactly what a successful trading strategy attempts to do. No magic bullets -- rather smart methodologies for wealth creation. 

      MORE TO IT THAN MEETS THE EYE 
      While this strategy is benefiting from the implied volatility rise into earnings for Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC), what it's really doing is far more intelligent. 

      The ideal stocks for this strategy have a couple of common characteristics: 

      (i) The companies rarely pre-announce earnings -- this is an investment that does not look to make an earnings bet, so an earnings pre-announcement is the opposite of what we're hoping for. 

      (ii) The underlying stock price of these companies tend to move a lot (or some) as earnings approach and various institutions and traders shuffle the stock price around in anticipation of the earnings result. The more one sided the outside world starts betting on direction -- up or down, the better it is to own the straddle. 

      WHAT HAPPENED 
      This is it -- this is how people profit from the option market -- it's preparation, not luck. 

      Test the results on Apple Inc and Alphabet Inc, and the results are staggering. 

      To see how to do this for any stock and for any strategy with just the click of a few buttons, we welcome you to watch this quick demonstration video: 
      Tap Here to See the Tools at Work 

      Thanks for reading. 

      Risk Disclosure 
      You should read the Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options. 

      Past performance is not an indication of future results. 

      Trading futures and options involves the risk of loss. Please consider carefully whether futures or options are appropriate to your financial situation. Only risk capital should be used when trading futures or options. Investors could lose more than their initial investment. 

      Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results. The risk of loss in trading can be substantial, carefully consider the inherent risks of such an investment in light of your financial condition. 

      The author has no position in Intel Corporation Inc (NASDAQ:INTC) as of this writing. 

      Back-test Link (does require custom earnings settings).
       
       
       
       
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