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9 minutes ago, Sirion said:

NVDA confirmed 11/9 AC earnings. That puts us entering Thursday

 

Thursday or Wednesday? Nov10 40 delta?

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15 minutes ago, krisbee said:

yep, I know we entered early. But I didn't double check the option date. We should have entered Nov 10th instead of Nov 3. Sigh..... 

Yes in CML it was a 7 day expiry option but because they enter 7 days before, the expiry is the weekly after the earnings date.

Because we entered earlier, i selected the 7 day expiry from the entry date which gave the 11/03 instead of the correct 11/10.

Sorry for the confusion.

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On 10/27/2017 at 3:08 PM, Djtux said:

MAR I just reentered 120 calls 11/03 at 1.00. Got paid 0.12 commissions, strange to not pay commissions.

Closed at 0.80. Took the loss as we now know that it was probably the wrong expiry to play with. MAR was still profitable for me.

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3 day P-E on LYV.  Nov 17 (no weeklys) Looking to get in for .80 for 44 call.  Good track record but not much volume/liquidity. Spread is ok.  Small bet on this one.

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23 minutes ago, IgorK said:

Thursday or Wednesday? Nov10 40 delta?

Pretty sure Thursday. Yes, Nov 10 40 delta. Trade must be closed by stop-loss or win%, or 1 day before earnings (11/8). 

Closed YUM for .45, 57% loss. Again, lucky it was even smaller than my normally very small trade size for this type of play.

 

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I'm also liking EXC -- it is turning around on 30 min chart....filled at .65 on 55 delta as no 40 was available.  Nov 17 (no weeklies) 40 call.

 

 

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I entered a MAR 40 delta NOV 10 call today, a little early but after a good downswing decided to enter

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9 minutes ago, bam1960 said:

I entered a MAR 40 delta NOV 10 call today, a little early but after a good downswing decided to enter

What was your fill?

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27 minutes ago, NikTam said:

Exited BABA at 5.15 with a nice gain from 3.75.  Not quite 40% but I took anyway for a one day trade.

This one was very volatile today. I'm thinking about how to deal with that, considering the CML Back tests will only stop-loss out at EOD pricing.

Since I'm a strike higher due to a worse entry, I held until tomorrow. I guess we'll find out how that works out.

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@SirionThe trade is still valid by CML standards so the odds are with you.  I do overlay my own charting indicators for an entry point.  Sometimes it helps.  As a rule I will get out end of day whenever I have a major gain.  I could do a trailing stop, but that’s no help if it gaps down.  The limitations of market hours are a problem.  

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44 minutes ago, Sirion said:

This one was very volatile today. I'm thinking about how to deal with that, considering the CML Back tests will only stop-loss out at EOD pricing.

This is a good tip for me to remember... do not get into too volatile stocks where the Option prices move around >40% a day. Not sure how I can determine that... maybe someone here has some suggestions.

Thank you Nik for starting this thread.

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Look at the charts of BIDU and BABA... moving down towards EA date... BIDU had a nasty downward gap... made the day for many long earnings straddle/strangle holders.

Thinking of a small allocation towards a BABA earnings strangle... not sure yet.

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Two I am looking at tomorrow for 3 day P-E long call:  QGEN and RBC.  No weekly's and not great liquidity, but back-test look good for earnings play.

http://tm.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20171030232244_5cpygw9Asc9wwb03

http://tm.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20171030232318_mdfEVc19ridAdYU9

Would need to exit on Friday since Earnings are on Monday the 6th.

Would have to do a 50 delta on RBC.

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47 minutes ago, NikTam said:

Also -- HD has been a monster good trade for earnings.  The 14 day P-E.  Which means entry is TOMORROW.

http://tm.cmlviz.com/index.php?share_key=20171031011430_w0puDRYgk3tzJQMn

Based on back-testing, I will not be setting OCO for profit or stop loss.  Though a stop loss of 50% doesn't appear to affect upside potential.

I am in the official SO HD earnings trade. Will have to use a very small position so that I don't overload on a single stock.

Today's pullback would have been a good time to enter the straight call. Also, if I am not using any stop loss, a small position is good for risk control. The Nov 17 has good OI.

Thank you for the heads up.

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Here at SO we calculate straddle RV. Does it make sense to do the same for calls? Just a thought.

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Entered half position on HD 14 day P-E long call at 2.10   Nov 17 167.50

 

Filled on QGEN at 1.00 for 3 day P-E

Filled on RBC at .95 for 3 day P-E

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2 minutes ago, RapperT said:

What's everyone doing with MAR

MAR is from cmlviz alert blog. they say enter 7 days before 40 delta calls. and backtesting has good results. I entered last evening at 38delta calls of Nov 10, and holding it. So far 10% up.

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2 minutes ago, krisbee said:

MAR is from cmlviz alert blog. they say enter 7 days before 40 delta calls. and backtesting has good results. I entered last evening at 38delta calls of Nov 10, and holding it. So far 10% up.

cool wasnt sure when the entry was.  These tests seem a little "curve fitty" lol but what the hell

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Just now, RapperT said:

cool wasnt sure when the entry was.  These tests seem a little "curve fitty" lol but what the hell

i think they go with EOD price. I took advantage of yesterday's dip. 

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I have 7 P-E positions open right now.  5 are profitable (MAR, HD, QGEN, RBC, LYV), 1 is flat (EXC), and 1 is a loser (ADP). 

 

I'm liking my PnL this week.

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Just a note I exited my MAR long call today for a 1 day 32 % gain. Will renter if it comes down. In CML the average gain on these is around 32%.

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Exited ADP 3 day P-E for 30% loss.  Chart just keeps getting worse.  Would have lost less but I had my Stop Limit (-25%) set up too restrictively.  Lesson learned.  Stop should be set a bit above Limit.

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26 minutes ago, Sirion said:

Sold out of BABA at 40% gain. 

Still looking for a favorable entry to MAR, missed out on that one.

Haven't quite stoplossed out of ADP due to entering lower than @NikTam

ADP 118 call mid is 1.93 now.  Is it a good idea to try to enter a bit bellow this number? Actually to enter at all?

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Just now, IgorK said:

ADP 118 call mid is 1.93 now.  Is it a good idea to try to enter a bit bellow this number? Actually to enter at all?

Backtest was done with 3-days to entry and is designed to capitalize on upward momentum (the thesis of the trade is that some stocks tend to have rising prices, or optimism, into earnings consistently). We're not seeing that on ADP this cycle so far. 

The only reason I'm not exiting is that I've already paid commissions to enter. 

It may or may not go the other way for the last day of this trade, but based on the thesis - not really? 

This is a pretty new trade idea so it's not fully fleshed out. 

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@NikTam Thanks again for starting this thread.  There seems to be significant interest which is cool.  I do have a suggestion.  Perhaps we can create a uniform post for each trade idea.  For example, it could include just the symbol, expiration, strike/Delta and future exit date along with the link to the CML backtest with just one trade idea for each post.  I think this will allow for members to follow the thread more easily.

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      Back-test Link (does require custom earnings settings).
       
       
       
       
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