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Hello, I am new here because Reddit never lets me post a question. Here is my general question: Why do different Options Profit Calculators yield such different results? The differences are so large I cannot trust them. I used to just use Power Etrade, but recently I started comparing the results to other options calculators with huge differences. I am trying to do a relatively simple PMCC on WMT and the Etrade options calculator, Power Etrade Calculator, OptionsProfitCalculator.c om and OptionsStrat all give different predictions. What is going on? Input: Long call: 16 Jan 26: $37.30 Short call: 24 May 24: $0.56 Results: Max profit Etrade: $31.95 MaxProfit Power Etrade: $105.3 OptionsProfitCalculator: $136 Options Strat: $136.70 What is going on? Thanks for any help.
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Introducing EarningsViz: Earnings Trades with an Edge
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I would like to introduce earningsviz.com, an options website focused on earnings trades. The thesis behind the website is simple: tail-end risk is mispriced around earnings events; by creating a simple and easy way to visualize this mispricing via analyzing option prices, it allows traders to pick the best strike prices and strategies to enter an earnings trade. This is achieved by comparing a historical distribution of changes in the stock after earnings against the implied moves of the stock calculated via tight vertical spreads. This comparison yields an edge value that demonstrates whether a stock is fairy valued, or more favorable for option buyers/sellers. A more detailed explanation of the methodology can be found here. Currently, EarningsViz is in a beta mode so all the information is available for free - the companies listed are all reporting next week (updated every Thursday/Friday). In the future, there will be a subscription required for accessing the information, and I plan on giving SteadyOptions users a discount. Also, I plan on adding strategies and trades for pre and post earnings soon. I am open to feedback/questions on the site as well as features you would like to see added, so let me know what you think!- 8 replies
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In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if those articles weren’t algorithmically generated based on whatever AP news story is trending. Just looking at today’s news makes the point: Fox Business has declared that Twitter’s profits are up because Trump demanded fairer social media. I’m quite certain that Donald Trump’s call for a fairer social media had very little to do with the bump in Twitter’s stock price. But saying “user numbers are up, and profits are up” doesn’t generate as much click bait as anything involving Donald Trump – from readers on both sides of the US political aisle. Anyone who regularly follows financial headlines knows of just how laughable a lot of the supposed claimed correlations are. Analysts grasping at straws trying to explain market movements becomes particularly laughable when looking at the options markets. What is clear reading option market news pieces is that writers understand very little about options or the reasons option traders enter trades. For some reason, most of the media assumes all option trades are bets on prices moving over a period of time. If traders buy puts, financial writers think the stock price is going down. If traders buy calls, those same writers think the pricesare going up. It’s a very limited analysis. In actuality, many option traders, Steady Option traders included, trade options to make money from volatility swings, to hedge existing positions, to help exit large stock positions, to help enter into long/short positions (a form of a hedged position), and a host of other reasons. It is impossible to look at a ticker and see “500 contracts of the 150 puts on stock ABC were bought” and conclude the reason for the purchase was because investors are betting on a price decline. A recent article on TSLA indicates this exact point. The author saw that “investors bought 5,000 weekly puts expiring April 26 with a strike price of $200…and 5,000 monthly contracts expiring in late June.” The author concluded this was a “type of crash protection” against coming earnings. This analysis is possibly correct, but more likely than not wholly incorrect. On this same day, there were also the same amount of the May monthly 200 put sold. In other words, it looks like that trader entered into: BTO April 26 200 Put STO May 17 200 Put Which all Steady Option members should recognize as an earnings diagonal trade. Given that earnings for TSLA are approaching (April 24), to me, it seems like this is even more likely of a possible trade. Further, I would conclude this was an earnings diagonal trade because it looks like the position was closed today (due to option volumes on the same positions). Reporters don’t appear to consider this point. Just as commonly, if there’s not a “matching” trade to see a diagonal or straddle setup, is the fact that most very large option positions are taken for hedging reasons or to assist in the liquidation of large positions. For example, if Joe Smith trader owned AAPL stock bought 5 years ago, Mr. Smith has well over one hundred percent gains. If Mr. Smith still has faith in AAPL, he may not want to sell (or incur capital gains taxes), but he also doesn’t want to keep that much risk on the table. So,he buys the June 2020 150 puts for $3.00. This means he’s locking in a 50% gain for well over a year for only 1.5% of the current price. This is not a “bet” that the stock price is going to decline. It’s locking in gains. If an institution owns 10m shares of AAPL, it probably has a duty to enter into a hedge such as this. There is no way to view a single options trade and make a prediction on “market sentiment.” So why should we even read options news and reporting? Well I do it to see potential options trades. Higher volume trades typically mean more liquidity and tighter spreads (though not always), which means I can option trade for “cheaper.” High volume announcements also get me to look at just how that trade might have been structured, thereby giving an idea for other trades. Just because a reporter is ignorant as to the reason for a trade does not mean an options trader cannot pull out worthwhile information for their own uses – while laughing at the reporter’s lack of option knowledge and hopefully making money in the process. Christopher Welsh is a licensed investment advisor and president of LorintineCapital, LP. He provides investment advice to clients all over the United States and around the world. Christopher has been in financial services since 2008 and is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™. Working with a CFP® professional represents the highest standard of financial planning advice. Christopher has a J.D. from the SMU Dedman School of Law, a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science, and a Bachelor of Science in Economics. Christopher is a regular contributor to the Steady Options Anchor Strategy and Lorintine CapitalBlog.
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Hi , I was wondering if I buy 10 or 20 options contracts for 1B + cap stocks like Fedex, Intel or Kroger ..... would i be able to sell them easily the next day? For instance, If I buy 20 options of LZB on a day that volume is 1 million +, can I sell all of them the next day? or it won't be enough buyers to exit all my positions? New to options, so please let me know Thanks, James
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Anyone here subscribe to www.redoption.com? I only heard about them recently via a marketing email since I have TD AM/TOS accounts. I think they've pitched the service to me before when I wasn't paying attention and knew nothing options. My email had a deal where I could get 2 strategies free for 60 days. I later got an update email that had another code for 2 more strats free for 60 days. They're normally $20/month per strat. I'm only paying for 1 strat right now...but will be paying for all the ones I still want when my trial's over. I'm currently subscribed to iron condor, index calendar, vertical spread, collar and weeklies and seeing how they are. One great thing about them is that they to have autotrade but only in TD AM/TOS accounts. You just set how much you want to allocate per trade. They sound out emails discussing the trade, risk, rationale, etc. They seem to be pretty active in taking profits, reducing risk, etc. by making adjustments/closing part of the position. That could suck if you're having them do small trades and on TD AM's ripoff default commissions ($9.99 + $0.75/contract) but I'm not . I asked them how it's done since I once didn't get a fill on an advisory that went out. Turns out I had insufficient buying power at the time and they don't want to take people into margin call. As they explained "These orders fill at the same time the advisory is sent. All contracts are filled under a house account then allocated to individual accounts shortly after. " That sorta explains why it's TD AM/TOS only for autotrade. That also explains how they can get the pricing on fills for everyone. Too bad they can't autotrade on IB. So far, they seem ok but I haven't been on them for long. IIRC, I haven't hit any losses yet and have had some small to decent gainers. Some positions have been partly closed (to take some gains). For others they've been rolling. I did see one notification go out about a loss but I didn't have any position in that. The trade began before I subscribed.
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