Yeah, who knows if they really make any money. I've heard Tom say he's been losing money all year so many times over the years (because he's always short the market and carrying negative delta's) that he probably really is losing money - always. But I will say, TastyWorks is a fantastic platform, I love it. Certainly better than E*Trade and Fidelity that I also have. I'm just here to learn more since i'm not 100% satisfied with TastyTrade.