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We have hundreds of members who switched to Tradier and are very happy. Fills are comparable to other brokers including IB.

What experiences have you had with Tradier? Does it work well? I'm Spanish, so I don't know if they'll let me open an account there.

To add on to the discussion, you get what you pay for. IB is an enterprise-grade broker used even by top-tier hedge funds. Tradier is... Tradier. It goes down a fair bit, and often at the most inconvenient times...

what we would give for those comms here in Canada ... typical rate 0.70 per leg per contract with IB and that's really our only choice for trading options .. the recent diagonal we did in TLT was a very good trade but almost $54 in comms reduced gain by 4%

Nice, $0.50 average is great. My average is closer to $0.70 with IB over that time, for TLT.

No, you're right. Sorry for the mistake. I'll update my post so noone is misled in the future. I did a quick formula on the last 5 butterfly trades at IB and last 3 at Tradier and failed to double the contracts at IB to account for open + close, so my numbers for IB are off. The funny thing is I looked at the last IB trade to verify it looked right and on that particular trade, the cost/contract was about $1.10, so I assumed the overall number was correct. Thanks for pointing that out. So I went back and looked at all TLT butterflies I've traded since 2024 and the actual cost/contract at IB was $0.5041. The actual cost/contract at Tradier was $0.11925. The other numbers I posted on total commissions paid and net after-commission profit is correct, though - that includes all SteadyYields trades and not just TLT. (As a side note, I had a few months where I traded more than 10k option contracts at IB, so I believe that made commissions lower than normal just on those months)

@Kim I had hid that column to get the others to appear in one screenshot .... no my trades are less than 15 in official trades and have varied as the year has gone by ... I will likely start with 15 in 2026

Is it same position size as the model portfolio (15 spreads per trade)?

@Yowster @greenspan76 here are my YTD trades in SY for TLT ... I use IB as there really is not another brokerage to use in Canada at least for options ..... so yes the comms are high but still making good returns

@greenspan76 your comment about your experiences with IB commissions on the TLT trades made me look at my commissions for every 15-lot TLT fly this year. As you know IB commissions vary, but my range across all of those trades was a low of ~$0.35 and a high of ~$1.05 per contract (with only two trades of paying $1.00+). The average across all those trades was ~$0.60 per contract, so much lower than what you have observed. At that $0.60 rate the total commission to both open and close the trade was $4.80 for each fly (4 legs on open and close) - and with each fly typically costing ~$200 that commission is 2.4%. Ideally, I'd like under 1% impact per trade, but these are 4 leg trades so while not ideal the commission impact is bearable. Of course if you can lower fees and the same fills with another broker then that is better. The question is why your IB commissions are so much higher than mine, I have nothing special or out of the ordinary tied to my IB account.

So you gave up almost 20% of the profits, but still made over 70% in just one year even with not the best broker.. not bad.. over 14 years of subscription fee.

I guess you could try, although the difference id deltas might impact results.

Question and apologies if this has been discussed. If someone is stuck using IB could you explore using options on /ZB futures instead? You’d likely have to pick different strikes based on deltas but you’d be able to reduce your contract size by 10x. Not to mention more favorable capital gains treatment in US.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say that. The model portfolio is $10k, but I use a $20k portfolio so all my trades are double size. Since Yowster starting managing the strategy in July 2024, I've had total profits of ~$14,300 after paying ~$2735 in commissions. I just switched to using Tradier for this strategy in May, so most of the commissions are from IB. I'm pretty happy with it overall. Maybe I should have not overemphasized the commission difference in my prior post because if you can't use a cheaper brokerage, the results have still been pretty good with IB

This statement is completely inaccurate. Even with IB commissions you would still make outstanding returns.

The losses were with the previous manager who did a terrible job. Yowster has been managing it since the other guy was ousted, and there has been good returns. Read the postings on the Forum or follow Kim's email updates on Steady Yields. Sarang

With those commissions, and the payment of the service in IB, I don't think it will be profitable then.

I'm undecided whether to subscribe to that service, because I saw that it had many losses, have you been using it for a while?

Thanks

I use IB for a lot of trading, but these TLT trades, in my opinion, are too expensive there so I use Tradier for them. However, I made these trades at IB before I switched to using Tradier so I can give you real numbers on the commission differences. Over several hundred contracts of TLT butterflies at both brokers, my average commission per contract at IB was (EDIT: $0.5041....not the $1.138 I posted originally) and my average at Tradier is (EDIT: $0.11925...not the $0.214 I mistakenly posted originally. Tradier does charge a $10/month for Tradier Pro, which is spread across many other contracts for me. But even if you only traded these TLT trades at Tradier and you only did 15 butterflies per month, it would cost you around (EDIT: $14.31 commission...not the 25.68 I originally posted) + $10 monthly fee = $24.31. Whereas at IB, the same trade would be roughly (EDIT: $60.49...not the $136.56 I originally posted). Those are total costs to open + close just as a comparison of the difference

1. IBKR is a very low commission broker. I have used them for several years with both Steady Yields, and also better yet with Steady Collars strategies. Their commission structure as well as low Margin interest rates allow you to keep most of the profits for yourself. 2. You can read about it in the Forum Steady Yields Sarang

where Do I could read about this strategic?

I operate with IB, would commissions be a problem for this operation?

I did not and I saw that it was not working so not sure what changed. Update: the previous error seems to be missing earning date from one of the source. Now it seems to be providing it.

@Djtux not sure if you did anything, but it is working now.