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I understand the strategy, but like the OP, do something besides trade during the day. Email doesn't get my attention. Having to setup my own janky notification system (which doesn't work well for mobile due to no alerts in the actual email) or having to install twitter JUST for this is not acceptable to me. I'll be letting my subscription lapse for this 1 reason. I can adjust positions and modify, but want the signals to avoid the time required to find them myself. I get it. You are old school. it's fine.

This community is VERY VERY against updating to the latest technology available for community building. Many suggestions like this have been made since I've been part of it. For very little money, a developer could be hired to build a notification portal for them to notify twitter, forums, slack, text, all from one interface, but for whatever reason they push back saying 'forums are best'.

If you find one, let me know! I'm not aware of any that do options/futures.

If you don't get a form after your account is confirmed asking you to 'agree to pay' for the $40 promotion, simply email them and tell them you want this deal and they'll get you hooked up (Tradier). The tradehawk plan everyone has is just simply the 'Pro' version of the software listed on Tradier's platform site. When you sign up (through Tradier), you'll get another form agreeing to pay for that. Once that's done, Tradehawk will reach out with the download link. I think Tradehawk may have upped their fees slightly since this thread was super active on the topic which is why it's $69 instead of $59.

https://www.mytradehawk.com/videos/ Take the Tour: 30 minute tour of the platform Example of risk graph at 5 min. Also contact support and they'll walk you through any questions you have 1 on 1.

It's one or the other AFAIK.

If both legs are in the money, that means you either exit before close, or they will automatically exercise both legs. There is a 9$ fee for exercising each position.

Risk graph is in the $30 version. 100% To access open your option chain, setup your legs, right click on them -> risk graph. Additionally, from the account screen, you can check the box next to any legs (of same underlying) and right-click -> risk graph. Unsure why you are not seeing it, but it is 100% in the $30 version as I've used it for over 6 months. Strategy builder, option skew, and the ability to compare risk graphs are NOT in the $30 version and are very nice.

Trend does not have this type of 'closed' reporting. Tradehawk also has the strategy builder that allows you to track more specific series of trades. (in case you are trading 2 different separate strategies using the same underlying in the same month).

To close, you select existing positions, right click -> close. To open, you open option chain, select positions you want, right click -> Populate Trade Ticket, Alternatively, you setup risk graph with the positions to enter, rclick -> populate trade ticket.

Just in case others are concerned, you can select all of the 'related' positions you want to see P/L of and right-click -> risk graph to see the current P/L of the position. I dont' like it as much either, but it works.

This might be the headache I was thinking of rather than the open/close problem.

It doesn't have ALL of the features shown in the $245, but it's still very slick. I dont' know where the comparison of the $30 vs $245 is located (if there is one).

It's been awhile since I've used Tradehawk for closing as Trend is just overall more usable for me. Glad they fixed it!

reach out to info@mytradehawk.com . I know they'd be happy to schedule time to help you use any of the features you want to learn about.

@mrw02536 I like being able to see how my adjustments affect my trade. Tradier provides 0 interface to natively do this. If all you are doing is enter trades via signals and you don't care to see how your fills/adjustments affect things...I guess this is fine. I found that many times I'd mess up the order and have to recreate it 2-3 times before I got it just right (forget to change a buy to open to buy to close or something simple like that - speed is key for me). Too much room to make errors. Using either of the platforms below, it's very easy to click on a current position and the close order is auto-entered. From my experience: ONE: Pros: Good risk profiling. Lots of options for customizing how the platform works. Well established/tested. Lots of 'help' as it's one of hte most used 3rd party platforms out there. Cons: does not sync with the broker. Constantly have to ensure all of the postions are updated (when fills happen, etc.) - this was a deal killer for me. Trend: Pros: Risk modeling of current and theoretical positions Much snappier/reactive interface Charting is much easier to interact with Current (and projected) profit/loss via risk graph is very easy see. Cons: Current P/L on account view is based on 'last' price, not 'mid' price. - no way to change this. If you have several adjustments, you have to keep track of total position P/L on your own. Tradehawk: Pros: P/L of positions is accurate to closing at mid prices. Lots of customization on account view. Has a 'Strategy builder' to allow you to track a series of trades - auto-calulating P/L Developers are SUPER responsive and open to feedback. Cons: Uses Java. - Memory hog, prone to security vulnerabilities (Java, not tradehawk), and not as 'slick' looking/feeling as the new tech Trend interface. Harder to close existing positions (have to adjust the buy/sell to open/close manually for each leg - Trend does this automatically). Charting is awful. Just not interactive at all. Con All: Something none of these have that I'd really like (TW has and IB at least notifies): No tracking of binary event data (dividends/earnings) - this is something I'd REALLY like to have to help me remember to close stuff on those days or just make better decisions about closing positions earlier than I would otherwise. I do this on the side not as a full time job so it's hard for me to keep track of them all. Just my experience. Hope it helps.

Oh it might be $30, now that you mention it. Either way it's cheap and 100000% worth it over the web interface.

https://www.dynamictrend.com/ There's a Tradier specific version available for 20$ a month. Doesn't have all of the features, but it's great. Contact Tradier support to get signed up.

Pay 20$ a month for Trend?

The biggest con for me is the lack of a good mobile platform. You can make trades through their web interface, but building spreads is a headache and very easy to mess up. As long as you have access to one of the desktop platforms (Tradehawk and Trend are the ones I used, both great), I've been VERY happy with Tradier.

Unfortunately I have not found one. If I come across anything, I'll let you know. I know a couple of the platforms were looking to develop that way, just don't know how far along that is.

Just FYI. I forwarded this conversation to Kosta (Lead dev for Tradehawk). He's going to prioritize this and said it shouldn't be hard. He plans to auto-populate the remainder of a partially filled order into the order screen when you hit cancel so you can adjust and hit send right away.

This is why I use Trend/Tradehawk. You can easily set close orders and not have to worry about open/close because the system automatically reverses the position and you hit 'go'.

Bummer I was stopped out of this long ago with a pretty sizeable gain. Sorry to hear got the raw end!

I apologize. I was between stuff at work and glanced at my numbers. I had lopsided entry/exit numbers. I ended up with 76% gain (entry 1.73, exited 3.06.) on my ADI trade. My point still stands.