dbh21 62 Report post Posted July 28, 2014 So I was checking UPS for holding a calendar thru earnings and I noticed that the put calendar is twice the price of the call calendar for the Aug1/Aug spreads. As far as I can tell there is no ex-div date announced before Aug1 expiration. Is this price difference due to a bearish sentiment? Or am I missing something really obvious? It seems like if you could get filled near the mids it would be an arbitrage opportunity (OI is low, so I doubt it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jr1221 12 Report post Posted July 28, 2014 If you have the margin, what if you sell the expensive one and buy the cheap one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbh21 62 Report post Posted July 28, 2014 That would be the arbitrage opportunity i was speaking of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kim 7,943 Report post Posted July 28, 2014 Previous dividends were in mid May and mid Feb, so I'm pretty sure there is a dividend before Aug expiration and the markets are pricing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yowster 9,180 Report post Posted July 28, 2014 The next ex-div date is likely around 8/15 before the August monthlies expire, so the monthly calls have that factored in. So, I don't think that would factor in a hold thru earnings strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbh21 62 Report post Posted July 28, 2014 Yes... of course I'm not thinking straight. I estimated the next div date at about 8/15... but I was only thinking about the short positions. I blame this on not having any coffee yet... thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 20 Report post Posted July 29, 2014 These calendars must have been slightly away from the money bc the price difference should have been much higher with a 67 cent dividend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kim 7,943 Report post Posted July 29, 2014 Well, for ATM options, you can expect the difference between calls and puts to be about half of the dividend, this is normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 20 Report post Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) not to belabor the point, but shouldn't the difference be the full 67 cents roughly? thinking: long call factors in 67 cent downward drift, times ~50% delta, = ~33 cent discount to parity long put factors in 67 cent downward drift, times ~50% delta, = ~33 cent premium to parity if "parity" is 45 cents (arbitrarily selected), call trades for 12 cents, put trades for 78 cents short call/put not affected by dividend Edited July 29, 2014 by Gary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites